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SSjin Trunks ( Mecha Freeza arrival ) Vs No. 20
Topic Started: Mar 30 2013, 08:22 PM (1,502 Views)
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^You also ended up bolding the latter part of the quote which goes against everything you just insinuated.
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Piccolo wonders if the androids are weaker or if the Z-senshi are too strong. If you follow either route to it's logical conclusion, you'd get;

Androids are weaker - Instead of the Androids being >>> Present Z-Senshi, they're < Present Z-Senshi. They're still > Future Z-Senshi and Trunks. Piccolo doesn't question Trunks' statement that they were >> him even once, even when he poses the conundrum.

The Z-Senshi are too strong - It just means that the Z-Senshi are >/>> Androids. It doesn't change Trunks' placement at all. Again, as Piccolo doesn't question Trunks' placement, it means that the Androids are >/>> SSJ Trunks

Whatever way you look at it, the androids are always going to be >/>> Trunks.
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That's kind of a plot thing though, and Trunks wasn't even referring to the same set of Androids. By that logic, Piccolo and Vegeta should have been able to handle 17 and 18 themselves. And we all know how well that went for the gang. (If you didn't click the link, it's just Vegeta being thrown at Trunks, Tien gets choked out like a punk and Piccolo gets backhanded, like a big green punk. That's the fight.) So assumptions are just what Oscar Wilde said they were even when a magic alien plant man is making the assumption.
Make of that what you will, but I'm sure Piccolo still hasn't quite caught up to the Super Saiyans in that regard. Either way, Piccolo and the rest of the Z Fighters didn't even take him (Android 20) seriously. \ I mean pause that at 3:42, he's playing pinball with Gero! Literally. Gero isn't threatening, 19 put up a better fight than he did. Gero got man handled worse than Frieza and King Cold. Even Trunks Saga Future Trunks has this one, never the less a possibly "stronger and Zenkaied" one that shows up to help fight 17 & 18.
If we're doing this linearly, then here we go.

SSJ Goku & SSJ Trunks > Android 19 > Android 20 > King Cold > Mecha Frieza
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Apr 1 2013, 10:33 PM
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Apr 1 2013, 09:39 PM
Vegeta said the androids were not as strong as expected so that puts them below Trunks 1st appearance because they were supposed to be stronger according to trunks. Thats why I think trunks wins.
Vegeta was told that Trunks stood no chance against the Artificial Humans, not that they were just stronger than him. Plus, he was also told that they were capable of killing all of the Zet-Senshi. His expectations were likely very high, rather than simply Artificia; Humans>SSJ Trunks.
Trunks speaking to Goku: "I could barely manage to escape even when fighting one of them" to being strong enough to fight back

"obviously still weaker, but a smaller gap is implied here" than what your saying,

Piccolo and Vegeta say the cyborgs are not what they seem which was stronger than trunks by a good margin only. You could take to other statement about Piccolo being to strong neither wrong .

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The evidence you showed just proves that the Androids are just as strong as the rumors were made out by Trunks ^
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It shows they are below. Especially when the cyborgs are not said by trunks to be one hit KO material. So Dr Gero was either weaker or par with trunks at best.
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Apr 2 2013, 04:00 PM
It shows they are below. Especially when the cyborgs are not said by trunks to be one hit KO material. So Dr Gero was either weaker or par with trunks at best.

Dr.Gero being on par with SSJ Trunks is the best assumption.
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